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pastafarian
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Topic: Convince me that god is real and that Xtianity is Posted: 08 Oct 2007 at 11:29am |
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What observable evidence is there of God Existence?
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cybrix
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 5:45am |
well i assumed that you woke up???? that you breathe ???? and the fact that you asked the question must suggest that your conscious is trying to convince you already. . . . . . .
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Posted: 25 Mar 2009 at 7:22am |
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What observable evidence is there that HE doesn't?
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apostle
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Posted: 20 Apr 2009 at 3:13am |
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If God doesn't exist, question of whos the inventor, painter or mechanic should be valid as well. You cannot do a poem if you doesnt write it, and other things...
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dallas7
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Posted: 20 Apr 2009 at 7:32am |
If their is a design, there is designer. If there is a creation, there is a creator. So, there has to be a God. Things just dont "evolve".
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troy
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Posted: 06 Aug 2009 at 6:25pm |
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How about the fact that the Bible says !
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I understand your question. Most of the former answers just project that there is no evolution, that everything is stationary. They have chosen not to question, but just to eat everything that has turn to stone 2000 years ago into a book. Questioning is for philosophers. Measuring for scientists and believing is for those who choose not to think. It feels comfortable. It is better not to ask questions like that to most people here, they will constantly answer the same to any 'why and how question': 'God'. So consider it rather pointless to ask questions to people who chose not to question, it is better that way. They are happy, and that's the most important. They don't need explanations, their world as it exists today hasn't evolved from anywhere but whatever has been explained in the Bible. It is their right to choose obliviance. If you come to think of it, science does the same thing, in a way. We haven't established the certainty of any existence whatsoever, so far. But you and I, are still searching, they have turned into a saltpillar, and have found a statement that totally lacks any evolutionary stade. Their mind has become an iconic stone, and whatever you throw at them, they will reject. Please, they are happy, let them be.
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Posted: 06 Sep 2009 at 6:35am |
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Searching is as much suffering as finding is freeing your mind. I don't believe in a God, but I am still searching Him. Everything I don't know I call 'God', everything I do know, I give a name. The more I know, the more I know there is more I don't know, therefore the more there is God. Only what I believe, I can know and vice versa, so what I still not believe I cannot understand, and I call it : 'God'.
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Posted: 08 Sep 2009 at 8:08am |
I find Jvc's response rather interesting. Just because we have chosen to accept the "answers" in the Bible doesn't mean we have never questioned God's existence or questioned why things happen the way they do. As you have questions and keep searching, those who profess Christ have found those questions answered. All we are trying to do is point you in the direction to the One who can answer your questions.
You mentioned that "questioning is for philosophers"...and that "believing is for those who choose not to think." Once a philosopher has the answers to his questions, doesn't that make him as a "believing" person "who chooses not to think."?
The Truth of the gospel is rather simple. God loves us so much. Yet or sinful nature kept us separated from God. So he sent his son Jesus to be crucified on a bloody cross. God the Father would then raise him up from the dead on the third day. His death would be the ultimate sacrifice that would bridge the gap between us and God. Whether you choose to believe that is your choice, Jvc. But the answer has been provided. There is one verse of scripture I would like to leave you with. It is Colossians 2:8-11. It says,
"Watch out for people who try to dazzle you with big words and intellectual double-talk. They want to drag you off into endless arguments that never amount to anything. They spread their ideas through the empty traditions of human beings and the empty superstitions of spirit beings. But that's not the way of Christ. 9 Everything of God gets expressed in him, so you can see and hear him clearly. You don't need a telescope, a microscope, or a horoscope to realize the fullness of Christ, and the emptiness of the universe without him. 10 When you come to him, that fullness comes together for you, too. His power extends over everything. 11 Entering into this fullness is not something you figure out or achieve. It's not a matter of being circumcised or keeping a long list of laws. No, you're already in - insiders - not through some secretive initiation rite but rather through what Christ has already gone through for you, destroying the power of sin."
Christianity and the gospel message is simple. "Religion" complicates it.
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